[kgr]

Scoring: IMP

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1♥-1♠
??
 
You play a rather standard system here, (only special is that you can bid 2♣ forcing)

[rogerclee]

3H, after partner's 1S response this seems right on values.

[jdonn]

2♥, I have 13 points. Ok it's really good for that but 3♥ will reach lots of bad games too. Some will hate it but I also think 2♣ is worth considering, but how can I do that with so much interest in both majors?

[gwnn]

Well OK but what does 2♣ promise besides that you would like partner not to pass? In particular, how strong a 1 suiter could it encompass? Could you post some structure here? (am I opening pandora's box? )

[Siegmund]

I like bidding 3♥ on this type of hand. The downside of course is that a) partner has to be aware this is what a 3♥ jump can look like, and you need another way to show a really bid hand with six hearts since 3♥ is limited. I have the luxury of doing that while playing Polish, but not in SA or 2/1.

@gwnn: I'm going to guess that OP is playing Gazzilli here, which does indeed free up all the jump rebids to cover the 14-16ish shapely hands.

[mike777]

rogerclee, on Jan 23 2010, 06:43 PM, said:

3H, after partner's 1S response this seems right on values.

ditto

[gwnn]

@ Siegmund: if you had read some kgr threads about his methods you would know better than assume that he plays something standard (here by standard I mean something played by more than 1000 players)

[kgr]

gwnn, on Jan 24 2010, 02:09 AM, said:

Well OK but what does 2♣ promise besides that you would like partner not to pass? In particular, how strong a 1 suiter could it encompass? Could you post some structure here? (am I opening pandora's box? )

It is only forcing because you use 3♣ as a splinter.
So basically 2♣ is the same as standard, but it is forcing instead of almost forcing.

Siegmund said:

@gwnn: I'm going to guess that OP is playing Gazzilli here, which does indeed free up all the jump rebids to cover the 14-16ish shapely hands.

No. (I don't know Gazzilli, but I don't think that we play it.

[kgr]

If you bid 3♥:
I understand that 2♥ does not feel right with 7 tricks, but what is the limit for 2♥? Would you also rebid 3♥ with:
♠xxx
♥AQJxxx
♦x
♣AKT
 
or with:
 
♠xxx
♥AKJxxx
♦x
♣AJT

[Jlall]

Just 2H for me, it is a good 13 but...its still a 6331 13. Sorry to count points

[ONEferBRID]

Jlall, on Jan 23 2010, 10:11 PM, said:

Just 2H for me, it is a good 13 but...its still a 6331 13. Sorry to count points

Next thing you'll be using RKC .

[pooltuna]

kgr, on Jan 23 2010, 06:24 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

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1♥-1♠
??
 
You play a rather standard system here, (only special is that you can bid 2♣ forcing)

Assuming your subject line is a question, yes!

[kgr]

pooltuna, on Jan 24 2010, 02:59 PM, said:

kgr, on Jan 23 2010, 06:24 PM, said:

Dealer: South Vul: ???? Scoring: IMP

♠ xxx ♥ AKQxxx ♦ x ♣ ATx

1♥-1♠
??
 
You play a rather standard system here, (only special is that you can bid 2♣ forcing)

Assuming your subject line is a question, yes!

2 or 3

[kgr]

Jlall, on Jan 24 2010, 05:11 AM, said:

Just 2H for me, it is a good 13 but...its still a 6331 13. Sorry to count points

♠ xxx
♥ AKQ?xx
♦ x
♣ ATx
Would you bid 3♥ with ♥J or ♥T?

[pooltuna]

kgr, on Jan 24 2010, 08:01 AM, said:

pooltuna, on Jan 24 2010, 02:59 PM, said:

kgr, on Jan 23 2010, 06:24 PM, said:

<!-- ONEHAND begin --><table border='1'> <tr> <td> <table> <tr> <td> Dealer: </td> <td> South </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Vul: </td> <td> ???? </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Scoring: </td> <td> IMP </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> <table> <tr> <th> <span class='spades'> ♠ </span> </th> <td> xxx </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='hearts'> ♥ </span> </th> <td> AKQxxx </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='diamonds'> ♦ </span> </th> <td> x </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='clubs'> ♣ </span> </th> <td> ATx </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td>  </td> </tr> </table><!-- ONEHAND end -->
1♥-1♠
??
 
You play a rather standard system here, (only special is that you can bid 2♣ forcing)

Assuming your subject line is a question, yes!

2 or 3

not quite enough for 3 IMO

[Cyberyeti]

7 tricks most of the time, routine 3♥.

[Codo]

13 HCPS all of the time, routine 2 ♥.

[dake50]

Won't partner take another bid with 10-11 over 2H?
What am I missing? Good suit to be trumps if partial, partner upping most 10+ hands if game.

[Apollo81]

2♥. Sometimes, we're allowed to have a maximum.

[kgr]

dake50, on Jan 25 2010, 01:50 PM, said:

Won't partner take another bid with 10-11 over 2H?
What am I missing? Good suit to be trumps if partial, partner upping most 10+ hands if game.

yes, bu he will pass with eg 2 aces?
♠Axxx
♥xx
♦Axxx
♣xxx